Belial by Leidiriv

This is very well thought out and truly brilliant. Please post it on the Heroes forum with a link from here to there so those who read it can upvote it. Get Blizzard's attention because this is a fun hero concept.

I understand that possesion is like Aba Hat but whats the point? Amubush? Team fights?

That could be an amazing counter against my Deckard Cain's Hero Concept: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/concept/deckard-cain-complete-6154

A couple of questions I got:

1 - would Belial be able to move while "channeling" possession to a unit/hero ?, (or maybe able to move at a slower pace ?), what would the functionality be of that one other than vision-soak/remote-buff/debuff/situational-teleport.. ?

2 - the channel of the meteors = do they fall RNG or it's like 1 meteor at a targetted location after another, maybe able to target each specifically during the 2 second channel ? (description says "waves" of meteors, so kinda unclear if RNG rain like Gul'Dan's lol)

At first I thought what is this BS, but then realized the depth of the hero, (especially with reading the talent tree afterwards)

But yah = Good concept overall, like the deceiver functionality (Trait) mostly from his kit, fits the theme/lore, his Q could be cool also..

Nice concept but I think you need some more clarity with some of his abilities. Like in possession do you completely control a hero or do you control just movement and attack?
Also, I think you need to change its name since Sylv already has this which could cause confusion.
In Petty Illusions, if your ally attacks or uses abilities will it be dispelled? Is it dispelled after 2 basic attack hits or ability hits or both?

I would have never thought of a Belial hero concept. Good thinking!

a wonderful concept! I want to see more heroes that take advantage of HOTS leveling system to allow truly unique specialists, and this is a great example. I really can't applaud this enough. Which is why I want to give other suggestions just to encourage the concept of mind games against the enemy even more.

First, possessing an enemy is only really interesting to me if they don't know you did it, which suggests to me the need to make sneak-possession doable. An alternate mount would be my best suggestion (see below), but I think saying that the range of possession of an enemy increases if they don't have vision of you, either from obscuring swarm or hiding in the bushes helps that along. This also adds the fun of using obscuring swarm and then hiding in the bushes so your enemy *thinks* they are possessed when they aren't. I'd even not be opposed to possession of an enemy only working (without a talent) if they don't have vision of you, due to possession balancing concerns...

The indefinite ability to possess an enemy offers a bit of a tuning issue in my mind, specifically the "get out of death free" factor. Either belial can contribute meaningfully to fights while possessing an enemy, in which case he can avoid dying by possessing an enemy any time they gank without any sacrifice to his utility and thus becomes effectively unkillable except during team fights when possession will go on cooldown; or he can't contribute meaningfully while possessing an enemy in which case it's only used as a stopgap measure to avoid death and not for it's primary intended use-case because roaming around inside an enemy is too large a sacrifice of utility & soak potential.

I would suggest considering making it harder to possess someone in a gank situation, such as placing a tiny cooldown after being hit by an AA before you can possess someone; making it doable in team fights if your not focused but limiting it's use in gank situations when being focused, or giving it a very short radius making it hard to posses ranged assassins; but combining it with a way to possess someone without their knowing (see both above & below). If you didn't do that at least say that HP regain (and maybe even mp regen) is halted while possessing someone to ensure that you if you escape a gank by possessing with low health with low health your always be just as vulnerable when escaping no matter how long you possess them. Or you could simply put a limit on length of time an enemy can be possessed.

I think the enemy having some way to deal with you if they know their possessed may be interesting as well, particularly if you don't do something to prevent possession from being a get-out-of-gank-free card as above. There are a few things I could think of for handling this. One option being in their fountain area still harms you, so if a possessed opponent recalls you need to evacuate before the recall completes or die (maybe make the fountain do slow amount of damage so you can survive a recall if the enemy leaves the fountain immediately, but if they stick around to kill you your die in a little time).

Finally, this concept screams to me the need for an alternate mount. The idea of controlling the enemy information should include their knowledge about where you are positioned, but a simple mount makes this too straightforward case of roaming allot. I think if you up his power slightly while dropping his mount and thus roaming power to compensate you get a more interesting metagame, where misinformation about where he is located is more important because he is both more powerful when he surprises you, but less capable of rapidly changing locations once they figure out where he is. More importantly it makes possession a more interesting talent, since possessing an ally before they mount up would be a great alternate mode of getting between two places quickly without a mount and further encourage using the talent on allies, thus allowing you to hide the number of opponents that are attacking an enemy at a time.

To go along with this the master of lies feels like he should be able to stealth somewhat. so instead of a mount I'd suggest a cool down ability that stealth him and perhaps gives a small movement boost, but is used more for the ability to sneak up on people to possess, mind games when combined with obscuring swarm & possession, escapes by hiding, etc. Likely with a talent that allows him to become partially immune to damage when stealthed so it can be used as a defensive ability as well.

In the spirit of inspiring creativity, any talent builds mentioned in the comments will be featured in this concept.

what happens when abathur combines with azmodan and gets some steroids awesome concept!!

Maybe the best concept i've seen here; it si the spec I want to play: he's got funny abilities which would change the metagame...
I want Belial as soon as possible!

Unique, fun, interactive and of course, clean.
I really love Petty Illusions, Cloak and Dagger and Obscuring Swarm the most, since it's all stuff we don't get a lot of in Heroes. Abilities synergize and feel that they belong to one character, the flow of the skills are good, the icons are clean...
Just very awesome man :D