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Quote | PM | +Rep by Ixidor » April 8, 2018 4:00pm | Report
I've been playing Heroes pretty solidly for over 2 years, and I've been generally happy with the release of new heroes and balance. But recently more than ever before I feel like the whole balance of this game is completely doomed.

For one, not to be captain obvious, but Fenix is beyond overpowered. Like I remember when ppl were *****ing that Li Ming was ruining the game, holy **** Fenix is beyond op or the power level of any previous hero made before, what in the world were they thinking? It's consistently like 66% winrate in ranked... and that's JUST RANKED, when I played QM it's basically whichever team gets Fenix wins, I mean, all the Fenix player has to be is at least Gold+ tier skill and its over, you'll generally always see them get MVP more than most of the time if they just play at a normal level.

Secondly, this game is dead because it's emphasis on Specialists and "push power" is far too strong, and has been for far too long. When you look at the top win heroes... like... just about every specialist is in the Top 25% of heroes, I'm talking Probius, Gazlowe, Zagara, etc. interchangeably. hmm.. I wonder? While the pseudo support/healers like the Medivs, T***, Tyrande and basic ADC's like Raynor/Tychus are at the bottom of the barrel. Its just straight up facts at this point, the OP assassins and specilaists are at the top, healers in the middle, and pseudo healers/adc's and ****ty tanks like Chen are at the bottom. What this tells us basically is that picking the high winrate consistent specialists is a strong way to win and if both have it's a coin flip, but if its a team that tries a Mediv or something odd or lets just say "non-specialist" they will lose majority of the time, and you can't argue with statistics.

Long story short, besides Fenix just ruining literally every game your team doesn't pick him, there's an underlying flaw to the game of push heroes and "builders" being just far too powerful and overwhelming... like you can try to be a Junkrat and play your *** off but you're just gonna lose to a gaz, probius or Zag, because the team that has a strong push will always beat a team that doesn't have as strong push. And I know ppl will respond saying "well that's how the game works", ******** it shouldn't just be an auto lose for picking Tassadar/Kha or some composition like that vs a conventional healer/specialist comp on enemy team, it should at least be more like League where you can pick a larger array of heroes and still have a fighting chance but it's not.

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Slombeeper » April 9, 2018 10:56am | Report
While I do agree with you, I don't think heroes of the storm is dead yet. Hopefully Blizzard will learn from their mistake and improve the game because it is somewhat new. What I do think is that we need to learn more about what they are working on or listen to the community a bit more. Knowing Blizzard, I can only assume they are trying their best and listening to us, even if we don't think so.

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Lynqoid » May 15, 2018 11:08am | Report
I would be inclined to agree if it was most other companies aside from Blizzard. They are capable of bringing doomed games around, Diablo 3 being a good example with the real money auction house. That game is played loads now and I even logged on it for quite a while and had an absolute blast on it! :)

(Fenix is OP though lol)
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Quote | PM | +Rep by Adunai » May 21, 2018 1:37pm | Report
What's going on in this thread? A guy saying that specialists are OP? Lol? And that Medivh is weak? Lol? What?

This is only a case in the QM and in lower leagues. I know it first hand. But you know why they seem strong to you? Because your team never clears and never soaks. And you probably don't either.

If you clear and if you soak, and then you fight, you will win every fight because specialists suck hard in fights (aside from Nazeebo). Zagara can't do anything, Gazlowe can't do anything, Sylvanas is a far worse minion than Raynor or Artanis...

Pick Gul'dan for clear lol

Ah, and about the game dying, it makes no sense. The game is stable in Korea, and is far more popular than any RTS game, for example.
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Quote | PM | +Rep by LenClose » May 25, 2018 8:38am | Report
"I would be inclined to agree if it was most other companies aside from Blizzard. They are capable of bringing doomed games around, Diablo 3 being a good example with the real money auction house."

This one, I may have to agree with.

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Ixidor » August 11, 2018 12:14pm | Report
Adunai wrote:

What's going on in this thread? A guy saying that specialists are OP? Lol? And that Medivh is weak? Lol? What?

This is only a case in the QM and in lower leagues. I know it first hand. But you know why they seem strong to you? Because your team never clears and never soaks. And you probably don't either.

If you clear and if you soak, and then you fight, you will win every fight because specialists suck hard in fights (aside from Nazeebo). Zagara can't do anything, Gazlowe can't do anything, Sylvanas is a far worse minion than Raynor or Artanis...

Pick Gul'dan for clear lol

Ah, and about the game dying, it makes no sense. The game is stable in Korea, and is far more popular than any RTS game, for example.

Great, knew we'd get one of those elitist "I'm in the top 1% and Mediv is great, it must be you're just bad teehee" guys. Dude you don't know anything about me and you're just making radical assumptions about my gameplay and understanding of the game, I said I've played since right when game started and I'm in Plat... YAYY wow, let me guess you're so much better, but guess what I don't care I understand the game well enough to formulate a valid opinion and I feel I'm better than most your QM scrubs.

Also you're making these assumptions that I'm basing this off QM, no dude... if you just look at Hotslogs and see the hero league stats over the last couple months, even unselect all Bronze/Silver to remove all the chaffe and get a stronger look at the heroes dominating the game, you'll see that there isn't a SINGLE specialist below 500, and actually they're all 53%+ winrate. And if you look at only Plat-Masters games, Mediv is still one of the weakest win rates in the game-- I'm sorry dude I know this pains your ego 'cause facts don't care about your feeling... but if a hero loses more than he wins hugely on all levels, and is still one of the bottom even at the higher levels, its not a winning hero to pick. You can tell me you have a friend with a 56% win rate Mediv in HL but it doesn't matter, he's a losing hero to pick. And it sucks 'cause I'm a lvl 63 Tassadar, he's one of my fav heroes, I have a 49% winrate but I can rarely get a game with him cause mostly he underperforms. I don't have this narcissistic ego like "WELL IT MUST BE ALL YOU GUSY I DONT LOSE THAT MUCH" when statistics show something is wrong, you cant just look at a 60% wr Raynor and not wonder if he's OP because the top 1% Masters he's only like 52% it doesn't work that way you have to consider all levels of competent play. And this game is dying man, it was supposed to be the next dota and I can barely see it on twitch.

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