Simple Li Li guides (15/10/2015) by Hazunia

Simple Li Li guides (15/10/2015)

By: Hazunia
Last Updated: Oct 15, 2015
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Li Li

Build: Countering Illidan / Butcher

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Threats to Li Li with this build

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Threat Hero Notes
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Illidan Even with the help from Abathur Illidan is completely unable to compete against Li Li in a 1 vs 1 situation due to the blind and heal. You just have to make sure that you don't waste your blinds on spell casters.
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The Butcher Similar as Illidan, his damage comes from auto attacks and his charges are obvious, making it fairly easy for Li Li to completely nullify Butcher out of the match.
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Abathur While Abathur is not physically present, he's generally boosting an auto attacker up, however your Blidning Winds should be more than enough to negate this boost.
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Kerrigan Like with Butcher and Illidan, Li Li theoretically is more than able to sparr with the Queen Bitch of the Universe, however it still good to remember that she still has a constant CC of her own on a fairly low cooldown meaning she's not quite so easily defeated by a simple blind.
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Zeratul While technically Li Li probably would win in a 1 vs 1 fight against Zeratul whom doesn't micro away, it is good to make not that Zeratul is capable of bursting Li Li down from stealth before she can react.
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Raynor While it is true that like Tychus, Raynor as well is very bound to his AA damage, but it is still good to note that the brief stun Raynor is able to spec into can still make him into a reasonable threath.
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Tychus While Tychus is almost completely bound to sustain Auto-Attack, his Odin ultimate is still a reasonable threath, however with a long cooldown time and finite use he makes for a poor counter against Li Li.
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Brightwing As a support, you form the backbone of your team together with the warriors, however unlike a warrior, your mere presence is not enough. Being polymorphed can easily result in getting your team wiped.
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Valla While Valla does count as an auto-attacker, it is still good to note that Li Li's blind does not affect her Q and W abilities, which means that even when blinded, she's still a threath to Li Li.
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  No Threat
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Nova Unlike Zeratul, Novas attacks are primarily based on her spells making her burst that much more dangerous for Li Li, however since you are a support, you shouldn't be found alone quite so easily as some other heroes which might work as an deterrant against Nova.
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  No Threat
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Jaina This build relies heavily on Li Lis blinding effect and thus heroes whom damage is based off on spell casting means almost certain death for our little panda.
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Kael'thas This build relies heavily on Li Lis blinding effect and thus heroes whom damage is based off on spell casting means almost certain death for our little panda.

Li Li

Build: Countering Full Auto-Attack Hit Squad

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Level 10
Level 13
Level 16
Level 20

Threats to Li Li with this build

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Threat Hero Notes
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  No Threat
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Abathur While Abathur is not physically present, he's generally boosting an auto attacker up, however your Blidning Winds should be more than enough to negate this boost.
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The Butcher Similar as Illidan, his damage comes from auto attacks and his charges are obvious, making it fairly easy for Li Li to completely nullify Butcher out of the match. However, it is good to remember that without the lingering blind, The Butcher is not quite as vulnurable against you.
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Illidan Even with the help from Abathur Illidan is completely unable to compete against Li Li in a 1 vs 1 situation due to the blind and heal. You just have to make sure that you don't waste your blinds on spell casters. However, it is good to remember that without the lingering blind, Illidan is not quite as vulnurable against you.
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Kerrigan Like with Butcher and Illidan, Li Li theoretically is more than able to sparr with the Queen Bitch of the Universe, however it still good to remember that she still has a constant CC of her own on a fairly low cooldown meaning she's not quite so easily defeated by a simple blind.
3
Tychus While Tychus is almost completely bound to sustain Auto-Attack, his Odin ultimate is still a reasonable threath, however with a long cooldown time and finite use he makes for a poor counter against Li Li.
4
Raynor While it is true that like Tychus, Raynor as well is very bound to his AA damage, but it is still good to note that the brief stun Raynor is able to spec into can still make him into a reasonable threath.
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Valla While Valla does count as an auto-attacker, it is still good to note that Li Li's blind does not affect her Q and W abilities, which means that even when blinded, she's still a threath to Li Li.
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Zeratul While technically Li Li probably would win in a 1 vs 1 fight against Zeratul whom doesn't micro away, it is good to make not that Zeratul is capable of bursting Li Li down from stealth before she can react.
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Brightwing As a support, you form the backbone of your team together with the warriors, however unlike a warrior, your mere presence is not enough. Being polymorphed can easily result in getting your team wiped.
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  No Threat
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Nova Unlike Zeratul, Novas attacks are primarily based on her spells making her burst that much more dangerous for Li Li, however since you are a support, you shouldn't be found alone quite so easily as some other heroes which might work as an deterrant against Nova.
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  No Threat
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  No Threat
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Kael'thas This build relies heavily on Li Lis blinding effect and thus heroes whom damage is based off on spell casting means almost certain death for our little panda.
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Jaina This build relies heavily on Li Lis blinding effect and thus heroes whom damage is based off on spell casting means almost certain death for our little panda.

Li Li

Build: Sustainable Serpent Build

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Blinding the blind Top

Even after the nerfs, Illidan and Abathur combo is still more than a respectable threath especially if you then also stick a sprinkle of Uther, or Lt. Morales into the mix, you have a very highly volatile soup, which also hinges very heavily on that singular hero. The same of course also applies when Illidan is replaced with The Butcher.

Thus being able to pick heroes deliberatedly to shut down this kind of plays can mean getting a nearly automatic victory before the match even begins.

While definately more of a niche hero, Li Li absolutely excels at defusing the bomb described here.

When to use your Blinding Wind? Top

The pitfall for any build obviously comes when you are using the build improperly. While the basic talent cooldowns are fast, a teamfight might not have the time to wait for your Blinding Wind to cooldown before it's all over.

This means you have to be fairly selective on when to use your E ability. The blinding effect is not indefinate, so even if you see Illidan, or Butcher in your view, you're still probably better off waiting for a little while until they make their move and dash in to engage you, or your team mate. While this might be obvious to most everyone, it is still of extreme importance to remember.

Another thing to keep in mind is your and your opponents positions. Your Blinding Wind is not targetable and it will focus on heroes, selecting the nearest ones. This means that your Illidan opponent might retain his vision if he's surrounded by the rest of his team. Remember, by default the Blinding Wind only reaches 2 of the enemy team.

Mass Vortex? Top

When you're facing off against a team composition with 3 auto-attackers (Excluding supports and warriors that are primarily auto attack based.) you really might want to concider specking for the Mass Vortex instead to increase the targets rather than the duration up.

In a teamfight the significance is huge since your ability now reaches 4 of the enemy team instead of 1 very specific high priority target.

However without the longer, Lingering Blind, you really hope to at least place the opposing team in a rout after the duration is over if not a full on team wipe. The cooldown is too long for you to hope to cast it a second time during a fight, more than likely you are either chasing, or being chased by the opposing team.

Hindering Winds? Top

Most battles are decided over not only by team compositions, but also by positioning. This means that anykind of roots, slows, or stuns you can apply on the enemy team on masse makes it so much easier for your team to either pick individual enemies out of the fight with a fast burst, or simply wipe them out with a highly effective Ring of Frost, or just by running stragglers over that try to run away to safety after a lost team fight.

Li Li doesn't really have great ways to zone, or Crowd Control the enemy team and thus applying slows to your already souped up Blinding Winds can easily be what it takes to win a fight, especially when it comes to tight corridor styled maps such as the Pirate Bay with little room to maneuver despite being a rather large map overall.

The Sustainable Serpent Build Top

The Serpent Build in general has no obvious weaknesses, but similarily it has no specific strengths either. If this build seems optimal for the map, it kind of makes me wonder if there's a better support hero for the job.

That said it's still not like it was unviable, on the contrary. It fixes one of the largest major gripes people have with Li Li as a support. Untargetability. She's fully able to spam Q on a tanking warrior, while still topping up the health pool on a nearly full heatlh Kerrigan whom dives deep into the enemy team to wreak havock.

This build is at its best when you're against team compositions that aren't really here, nore there when it comes to damage sources. Some auto attack and some spell casters. Another optimal situation for this build is when the map objective specifically asks you to kill minions to achieve a goal. Since the serpent attacks bounce, it allows you to attack both the minions and the opposing teams heroes.

While your end screen statistics are almost guaranteed to be higher (Amount healed, siege damage and hero damage) when compared to the other builds on this guide, it is still good to keep in mind that your overall combat effectiveness is still going to be lower than usual with the other builds.

Some notes to keep in mind:
With the new patch, any summoned creatures on a blinded hero are also blinded. Thus I believe that if the host of your W water serpent is blinded, the serpent is also blinded and will not heal the host.

Especially at the late game, Li Li can become extremely mana hungry, eating it like cupcakes and thus while the Lingering Creature seems like a major buff, the cooldown on W is low enough as is and you cannot have more than 1 serpent out on another team member other than yourself at any given moment, making Lingering Creature nearly reduntant.

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